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Maven Madness

5 December 2010 - Bolinas

The clojure community seems to have adopted maven as the way to manage dependency fetching for clojure projects. I suppose this makes sense to folks coming from a Java background but, to me, it seems lunacy. I'm always somewhat suspect of automagic installation/dependency-management tools (although xach's quicklisp is pretty nice). Maven always bothers me because it downloads and installs a ton of things of which I have never heard. The latest example is what happens when one tries to build the latest clojure-contrib.

I suppose, before getting into the details of the maven madness I see, I should addresss the issue of why I'm building clojure-contrib at all. Another difference between, say, the SBCL community and the clojure community is that the SBCL folks generally take the attitude of "here's the source and a binary that you can use to bootstrap building your own compiler; now go off and have fun." In the clojure community it seems to be more "here's where you can download the jars you need -- and building things like clojure itself and clojure-contrib is best left to the experts." It's not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it's certainly not what I'm used to. So, my first instinct is to biuld clojure, then build clojure-contrib, then try to get my stuff working on it. I suppose I should also say that the motivation for this is that I want to get my clojure projects like shortcut and chemiclj ready for clojure 1.3.

Ok, now onto the details. First, I fetch and build the latest clojure. No problem there. Now, I'll use that jar to build a new clojure-contrib:

(sly@barbaresco):~/src/clojure/clojure-contrib$ mvn package -Dclojure.jar=/Users/sly/src/clojure/clojure/clojure-1.3.0-alpha3-SNAPSHOT.jar 
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What in the world is all of this stuff? A hodgepodge of poms and jars of things of which I've never heard and would just as soon avoid. What is plexus? Doxia? Wagon? Commons? Do I even want to know? Are these dependencies for clojure-contrib itself or for the process of managing the building/jaring/deploying (whatever that means!)/etc... clojure-contrib? I think there's some stuff in clojure-contrib I want to use, but do I really need all of this? How would I know? I also understand that there has been an effort to split clojure-contrib up into various components pieces, but that there might be an effort underway to undo that previous effort. It's all a bit of a mess.

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